diff --git a/files.py b/files.py
index 2cd7743..45f07af 100644
--- a/files.py
+++ b/files.py
@@ -247,7 +247,7 @@ def fix_dups():
     if 'pagesize' not in request.form:
         # default to 10, see if we have a larger value as someone reset it in the gui, rather than first time invoked
         pagesize = 10
-        jexes = JobExtra.query.join(Job).join(PA_JobManager_Message).filter(PA_JobManager_Message.id==request.form['fe_msg_id']).all()
+        jexes = JobExtra.query.join(Job).filter(Job.name=='checkdups').filter(Job.pa_job_state=='New').all()
         jexes.append( JobExtra( name="pagesize", value=pagesize ) )
     else:
         pagesize=int(request.form['pagesize'])
@@ -258,7 +258,7 @@ def fix_dups():
     DD.SecondPass()
 #    DD.Dump()
 
-    return render_template("dups.html", DD=DD, fe_msg_id=request.form['fe_msg_id'], pagesize=pagesize )
+    return render_template("dups.html", DD=DD, pagesize=pagesize )
 
 @app.route("/rm_dups", methods=["POST"])
 def rm_dups():
@@ -276,9 +276,6 @@ def rm_dups():
             jex.append( JobExtra( name=f"kdid-{which}", value=request.form['kdid-'+which] ) )
             jex.append( JobExtra( name=f"kdhash-{which}", value=request.form[el] ) )
 
-    fe_msg_id=request.form['fe_msg_id']
-    # allow backend to delete FE message once delete is being processed
-    jex.append( JobExtra( name="fe_msg_id", value=fe_msg_id ) )
     jex.append( JobExtra( name="pagesize", value=10 ) )
 
     job=NewJob( "rmdups", 0, None, jex )
diff --git a/pa_job_manager.py b/pa_job_manager.py
index d88114e..37f1c60 100644
--- a/pa_job_manager.py
+++ b/pa_job_manager.py
@@ -282,22 +282,20 @@ def JobsForPaths( parent_job, paths ):
         if parent_job:
             AddLogForJob(parent_job, "adding <a href='/job/{}'>job id={} {}</a> (wait for: {})".format( job2.id, job2.id, job2.name, job2.wait_for ) )
 
+        """
         jex3=JobExtra( name="path", value=path )
-        job3=Job(start_time=now, last_update=now, name="checkdups", state="New", wait_for=job2.id, pa_job_state="New", current_file_num=0 )
-        job3.extra.append(jex3)
+        job3=Job(start_time=now, last_update=now, name="processai", state="New", wait_for=job2.id, pa_job_state="New", current_file_num=0 )
+        job3.extra.append(jex4)
         session.add(job3)
         session.commit()
         if parent_job:
             AddLogForJob(parent_job, "adding <a href='/job/{}'>job id={} {}</a> (wait for: {})".format( job3.id, job3.id, job3.name, job3.wait_for ) )
         """
-        jex4=JobExtra( name="path", value=path )
-        job4=Job(start_time=now, last_update=now, name="processai", state="New", wait_for=job2.id, pa_job_state="New", current_file_num=0 )
-        job4.extra.append(jex4)
-        session.add(job4)
-        session.commit()
-        if parent_job:
-            AddLogForJob(parent_job, "adding <a href='/job/{}'>job id={} {}</a> (wait for: {})".format( job3.id, job3.id, job3.name, job3.wait_for ) )
-        """
+    job4=Job(start_time=now, last_update=now, name="checkdups", state="New", wait_for=job2.id, pa_job_state="New", current_file_num=0 )
+    session.add(job4)
+    session.commit()
+    if parent_job:
+        AddLogForJob(parent_job, "adding <a href='/job/{}'>job id={} {}</a> (wait for: {})".format( job4.id, job4.id, job4.name, job4.wait_for ) )
     HandleJobs()
     return
 
@@ -857,17 +855,16 @@ def GenVideoThumbnail(job, file):
     return thumbnail
 
 def CheckForDups(job):
-    path=[jex.value for jex in job.extra if jex.name == "path"][0]
-    path=SymlinkName( path, path )
+    AddLogForJob( job, f"Check for duplicates" )
 
-    AddLogForJob( job, f"Check for duplicates in import path: {path}" )
-    res = session.execute( f"select count(e1.name) as count from entry e1, file f1, dir d1, entry_dir_link edl1, entry e2, file f2, dir d2, entry_dir_link edl2 where e1.id = f1.eid and e2.id = f2.eid and d1.eid = edl1.dir_eid and edl1.entry_id = e1.id and edl2.dir_eid = d2.eid and edl2.entry_id = e2.id and d1.path_prefix like '%{path}%' and f1.hash = f2.hash and e1.id != e2.id" )
+    res = session.execute( f"select count(e1.name) as count from entry e1, file f1, dir d1, entry_dir_link edl1, entry e2, file f2, dir d2, entry_dir_link edl2 where e1.id = f1.eid and e2.id = f2.eid and d1.eid = edl1.dir_eid and edl1.entry_id = e1.id and edl2.dir_eid = d2.eid and edl2.entry_id = e2.id and f1.hash = f2.hash and e1.id != e2.id" )
     for row in res:
         if row.count > 0:
             AddLogForJob(job, f"Found duplicates, Creating Status message in front-end for attention")
-            msg_id=MessageToFE( job.id, "danger", 'replaceme' )
-            session.query(PA_JobManager_FE_Message).filter(PA_JobManager_FE_Message.id==msg_id).update( { 'message' : f'Found duplicate(s), click&nbsp; <a href="javascript:document.body.innerHTML+=\'<form id=_fm method=POST action=/fix_dups><input type=hidden name=fe_msg_id value={msg_id}></form>\'; document.getElementById(\'_fm\').submit();">here</a>&nbsp;to finalise import by removing duplicates' } )
-    FinishJob(job, f"Finished Looking for Duplicates")
+            MessageToFE( job.id, "danger", f'Found duplicate(s), click&nbsp; <a href="javascript:document.body.innerHTML+=\'<form id=_fm method=POST action=/fix_dups></form>\'; document.getElementById(\'_fm\').submit();">here</a>&nbsp;to finalise import by removing duplicates' )
+        else:
+            FinishJob(job, f"No duplicates found")
+    FinishJob(job, f"Finished looking for duplicates")
     return
 
 def RemoveFileFromFS( del_me ):
@@ -884,12 +881,17 @@ def RemoveFileFromFS( del_me ):
     return
 
 def RemoveDups(job):
-    # clear FE message we are deleting dups for this now...
-    fe_msg_id =[jex.value for jex in job.extra if jex.name == "fe_msg_id"][0]
-    session.query(PA_JobManager_FE_Message).filter(PA_JobManager_FE_Message.id==fe_msg_id).delete()
+    AddLogForJob(job, f"INFO: Starting Remove Duplicates job...")
+    # as checkdups covers all dups, delete all future dups messages, and Withdraw future checkdups jobs
+    msgs=session.query(PA_JobManager_FE_Message).join(Job).filter(Job.name=='checkdups')
+    for msg in msgs:
+        session.query(PA_JobManager_FE_Message).filter(PA_JobManager_FE_Message.id==msg.id).delete()
+    cd_jobs=session.query(Job).filter(Job.name=='checkdups').filter(Job.pa_job_state=='New').all()
+    for j in cd_jobs:
+        FinishJob(j, "Just removed duplicates - so no need to do any other checkdups, we will force 1 last one after the remove step", "Withdrawn")
+        print("here-loop")
     session.commit()
 
-    AddLogForJob(job, f"INFO: Starting Remove Duplicates job...")
     dup_cnt=0
     for jex in job.extra:
         if 'kfid-' in jex.name:
@@ -925,6 +927,7 @@ def RemoveDups(job):
             for hash in hashes.split(","):
                 files=session.query(Entry).join(File).filter(File.hash==hash).all()
                 found=None
+                del_me=None
                 for f in files:
                     if os.path.isfile(f.in_dir[0].path_prefix+'/'+f.name) == False:
                         AddLogForJob( job, f"ERROR: (per path del) file (DB id: {f.eid} - {f.in_dir[0].path_prefix}/{f.name}) does not exist? ignorning file")
@@ -943,8 +946,14 @@ def RemoveDups(job):
                     dup_cnt += 1
 
     FinishJob(job, f"Finished removing {dup_cnt} duplicate files" )
-    return
 
+    # Need to put another checkdups job in now to force / validate we have no dups
+    now=datetime.now(pytz.utc)
+    next_job=Job(start_time=now, last_update=now, name="checkdups", state="New", wait_for=None, pa_job_state="New", current_file_num=0 )
+    session.add(next_job)
+    session.commit()
+    AddLogForJob(job, "adding <a href='/job/{}'>job id={} {}</a> to confirm there are no more duplicates".format( next_job.id, next_job.id, next_job.name ) )
+    return
 
 if __name__ == "__main__":
     print("INFO: PA job manager starting - listening on {}:{}".format( PA_JOB_MANAGER_HOST, PA_JOB_MANAGER_PORT) )