diff --git a/README b/README
index bf06eba..b55675c 100644
--- a/README
+++ b/README
@@ -19,6 +19,11 @@ python3 main.py
 
 ### TODO: 
 - fix up lame book linkages to tabels that are so not 3nf, *_LST tables, etc.
+- ORM:
+	- saving a book with the ORM is probably the last oddity... probably time to try it (in a sense, the book edit page is the only time we change things, maybe we mess with that book-query as its too slow, and for book edit, if we don't allow editing items like author/publisher, then may only need to set the objects we want to change... I'm sort of curious can you save a book table based on id, without saging its author table, seems that should be okay, but how do I save both, just create 2 objects and do it, but what if the ORM has auto-connected bunches of stuff, how do I update the connected stuff.... MAYBE, I need to get say loan or something first, then try all this? (make a pop-up for stuff like loans, but what about series or sub-book editing????)
+	
+
 - consider getting rest of Book class connected, e.g. series, loan, etc.
-- see if we can break this out of main.py -- can't recall what was circular about this, but at least the wtf bits seem to be able to be moved out, so why not do that
-- get main.html to be some sort of include so that other htmls, can be clicked on / use back button, reload, etc. and it all works, but the whoel thing feels like a discrete app
+
+### MAYBE, I should make this a self-contained docker instance, then its a copy of the DB and anything I break will be fixable
+### next step is to rename genre_lst to genre, and maybe do similar to all _lst tables... then add genre.py in and get it to work 
diff --git a/main.py b/main.py
index add620e..50323de 100644
--- a/main.py
+++ b/main.py
@@ -65,13 +65,6 @@ class Book(db.Model):
     def __repr__(self):
         return "<id: {}, author: {}, title: {}, year_published: {}, rating: {}, condition: {}, owned: {}, covertype: {}, notes: {}, blurb: {}, created: {}, modified: {}, publisher: {}>".format(self.id, self.author, self.title, self.year_published, self.rating, self.condition, self.owned, self.covertype, self.notes, self.blurb, self.created, self.modified, self.publisher )
 
-#$class Publisher(db.Model):
-#    id = db.Column(db.Integer, unique=True, nullable=False, primary_key=True)
-#    name = db.Column(db.String(50), unique=False, nullable=False)
-#
-#    def __repr__(self):
-#        return "<id: {}, name: {}>".format(self.id, self.name)
-
 class Genre_Lst(db.Model):
     __tablename__ = "genre_lst"
     id = db.Column(db.Integer, unique=True, nullable=False, primary_key=True)
@@ -80,9 +73,6 @@ class Genre_Lst(db.Model):
     def __repr__(self):
         return "<id: {}, genre: {}>".format(self.id, self.genre)
 
-#class PublisherSchema(ma.SQLAlchemyAutoSchema):
-#    class Meta: model = Publisher
-
 class Genre_LstSchema(ma.SQLAlchemyAutoSchema):
     class Meta: model = Genre_Lst
 
@@ -104,17 +94,17 @@ books_schema = BookSchema(many=True)
 ####################################### ROUTES #######################################
 @app.route("/books", methods=["GET"])
 def books():
-    books = Book.query.outerjoin(Book_Sub_Book_Link, Book.id==Book_Sub_Book_Link.book_id).order_by(Book.id, Book_Sub_Book_Link.sub_book_num).all()
+    books = Book.query.all()
 
+	# ignore ORM, its too slow.  Just select sub_book data and hand add it to
+	# the books object, and use it in jinja2 to indent/order the books/sub books
     subs = db.engine.execute ( "select * from book_sub_book_link" )
     for row in subs:
        index = next((i for i, item in enumerate(books) if item.id == row.sub_book_id), -1)
        books[index].parent_id = row.book_id
        books[index].sub_book_num = row.sub_book_num
 
-    books_s = books_schema.dump(books)
-    return render_template("books.html", books=books, tst=books_s)
-#    return render_template("books.html", books=books_s)
+    return render_template("books.html", books=books)
 
 @app.route("/book/<id>", methods=["GET"])
 def book(id):
@@ -123,7 +113,7 @@ def book(id):
 
 	######
 	###
-	### okay, this manual hacking of sub_book is currently going to be needed, because in the jinja2 I want to list the book, and more than just the id numhber of the sub_book, I want the details... (sub_book_schema needs a book relationship BUT, dependencies mean I can't define a book schema inside sub_book schema, and I am definitely not sure how to join it anyway... for another time.
+	### okay, this manual hacking of sub_book is currently going to be needed, because in the jinja2 I want to list the book, and more than just the id number of the sub_book, I want the details... (sub_book_schema needs a book relationship BUT, dependencies mean I can't define a book schema inside sub_book schema, and I am definitely not sure how to join it anyway... for another time.
 	###
 	#####
     # force sub books for jinja2 to be able to use
@@ -140,10 +130,10 @@ def book(id):
 
     book_s['sub_book'] = sub_book
 
-    print( "parent book details:" )
-    print( book.parent_ref )
-    print( "child book details:" )
-    print( book.child_ref )
+#    print( "parent book details:" )
+#    print( book.parent_ref )
+#    print( "child book details:" )
+#    print( book.child_ref )
 
     return render_template("book.html", books=book_s, subs=sub_book )